Wednesday, November 10, 2010

What's all this GEDCOM stuff about?

DearREADERS,
From a non-techie point of view, here is a brief synopsis of challenges noted by other genealogy bloggers when importing or exporting GEDCOM files, and their feelings about needing an alternative data transfer mechanism so genealogists don't lose data they've entered.

Non-techies can and certainly should provide input at the BetterGEDCOM wiki. It is our combined buying power that can influence software programmers and website developers to spend the time making a uniform code for genealogy data transfer. I, for one, don't want to print out my genealogy data in the hopes that my new found cousin will take the time to type everything in again using his different genealogy management program.

This isn't going to happen over night. But it WILL happen if we ask for it. The guys and gals that do genealogy software development have provided great products in the past. We applaud their efforts to come into compliance with emerging source citation standards. Let's get them to develop an internationally accepted method for sharing that data with others -- as genealogists surely do.


Ancestry Insider 1 November 2010
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AncestryInsider/~3/uwdVjrbfA6o/mailbox-monday-gedcom.html “There was no small dissatisfaction among attendees regarding GEDCOM’s deficiencies. It has not been updated since way back when FamilySearch barely gave source citations any attention. It does not support the best of breed citations supported by FamilySearch’s competitors. Instead, it relies on a single text field, cremating citations that are forced through it.
GEDCOM also does not support transfer of artifacts, images, and attached documents, all of which are misrouted to the great lost-luggage warehouse in the cloud.”

DearMYRTLE 1 Nov 2010
http://blog.dearmyrtle.com/2010/11/build-bettergedcom.html
“How can average Joe researchers, like Ol' Myrt, here share info with a new-found cousin if GEDCOM files are stripping out our citations, notes, links to source documents, etc.?”


Dick Eastman 1 Nov 2010
http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2010/10/its-2015-do-you-know-where-your-data-is.htmlGEDCOM was invented as a file format in the 1980s and has had a few updates since then. However, there have been no major updates at all in more than ten years. An XML version of GEDCOM was proposed more than five years ago, but nothing has happened with the proposal since then. The XML proposal has never been implemented in any of today’s genealogy programs. Meanwhile, genealogy software has become much more advanced in recent years, and the existing GEDCOM standard no longer can accurately transfer all the data between dissimilar programs.”


James Tanner 1 Nov 2010
http://genealogysstar.blogspot.com/2010/11/lets-talk-about-gedcom-what-pleasant.html “[...] I will try to state the issue as I understand it, in terms that can be used for a further discussion. First, this is not just a FamilySearch problem. It is a data transfer program that grows more complicated each day as genealogy programs are updated and new programs introduced. It is important to remember that GEDCOM 1.0 was released in 1984, the year the Apple Macintosh Computer was introduced. The difference is that GEDCOM stopped in 1996 at version 5.5 Standard, while the Macintosh is currently at dual quad core status. It is well known (by those who care) that the GEDCOM standard allows for far more tags than were implemented in PAF Version 5.2 and that many software programs have implemented non-GEDCOM extensions. So, the world as it is, means that most genealogy software programs are even now, only barely compatible even using what ever parts of GEDCOM will work.”


Greg Lamberson 1 Nov 2010
http://genmadscientist.wordpress.com/2010/11/01/we-need-a-new-gedcom-now “The only way to solve this problem is for the user community to step up and exhibit some leadership in the area of genealogical technology. We have to band together and get these software companies to work together, because they’re not going to do it themselves.”


James Tanner 02 Nov 2010
http://genealogysstar.blogspot.com/2010/11/last-gasp-of-paf.html “OK, to be fair, PAF [Personal Ancestral File]  is still a viable program, but unfortunately, most of the people using the program do not realize its limitations. As a result, we still have tens of thousands of the program's users who are failing to properly attribute sources to their information and are otherwise not documenting their research in a way that can be ported successfully to other programs. It is not that PAF cannot add sources, it is that the source citation programming is itself very limited. I do not want to get into a critique of PAF, but my main objection is its limitations on sourcing. PAF and current version of GEDCOM are sort of like an old car, it was new and modern at the time, but in comparison with the latest models is now really old and clunky.”


Tamura Jones
http://www.tamurajones.net/GEDCOMAlternatives.xhtml  “This is an overview of GEDCOM alternatives. It is not an overview of  conversion products or utilities. This overview does not include GEDCOM to DAML conversion for the same reason that it does not include every GEDCOM to HTML conversion utility. It does not include projects that merely demonstrate that genealogical data can be modelled in a particular language. It does not include any geocoding standards or mark-up languages for addresses. This overview is focussed on genealogical standards that could replace GEDCOM. It does not include GEDCOM extensions such as GEDCOM 5.5 EL. It does include organisations that intend or intended to produce a standard, but have not done so yet.”  


Thomas MacEntee 9 Nov 2010
http://www.geneabloggers.com/build-gedcom/
"Editor's Note: we just received the following press release from DearMYRTLE and are we ever psyched! While the GEDCOM standard has been around for some time, it is in dire need of updating. Also, how can you not love a tech initiative within the genealogy community that has its own wiki! w00t!"

Randy Seaver 09 Nov 2010
http://www.geneamusings.com/2010/11/can-we-really-build-better-gedcom.html
"I sincerely hope that this happens.  If you, or someone you know, has an interest in this project and skills that can help the group, please volunteer and sign up at the Build a Better GEDCOM website.  It's free. Greg Lamberson has put together a Wiki in order to coordinate the effort." 


James Tanner 10 Nov 2010
http://genealogysstar.blogspot.com/2010/11/build-better-gedcom-wiki.html
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I laud the goals and the effort.  Especially their note that GEDCOM, as conceived, was a portable storage file format. This aspect of GEDCOM, i.e., that it was conceived as a standardized way to archive as well as transport/transfer data, is an important feature worth retaining."









Happy family tree climbing!
Myrt     :)
DearMYRTLE,
Your friend in genealogy.

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