Monday, June 07, 2021

ARCHIVED: Mondays with Myrt - 7 June 2021 including GEDCOM 7.0 info



DearREADERS,
Ol' Myrt here just loves it when a plan comes together! Today's groundbreaking news about the release of GEDCOM 7.0 came within minutes of starting today's webinar, thanks to Tony Proctor, a member of the FamilySearch/GEDCOM development team.







SELECTED CHAT
10:02:17 From  Cyndy Bray  to  Everyone:
Good morning from Newman California
10:02:28 From  Frank Jatzek  to  Everyone:
Linda: 80 for me at the moment
10:02:36 From  Lisa  to  Everyone:
Hello from Mansfield, Texas!
10:02:52 From  Judy Sova  to  Everyone:
Hi Everyone!  Greetings from an almost-sunny Detroit.
10:02:54 From  Sheri Snodgrass  to  All panelists:
Hello from super warm Iowa
10:03:03 From  Frank Jatzek  to  Everyone:
Crossing fingers for you Myrt
10:03:04 From  Lisa  to  Everyone:
Having to do Closed Caption today!
10:03:48 From  Flo Merritt  to  Everyone:
Hello from Benton County, Oregon
10:04:06 From  Sheri Snodgrass  to  Everyone:
Hello from very warm Iowa
10:04:42 From  Barbara Christensen  to  Everyone:
Hi from Granite Bay, CA

ANNOUNCING! The return of GENEALOGY GAME NIGHT
this coming Wednesday, 9 June 2021 beginning at 9pm Eastern US. No extra registration required. Newbies may register for WACKY Wednesday here:
https://zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_c1I5_Qc6QMSFV1axgWcSyw


10:05:27 From  Dawn Carlile  to  Everyone: 
Genealogy Game Night was lots of fun to play. 20 Questions for genealogy. It really stretches your skills.

10:05:40 From  Char Mitts  to  All panelists:
Hello from Kansas
10:07:13 From  Frank Jatzek  to  Everyone:
you can even see the glass door
10:12:57 From  Linda Freeto  to  All panelists:
Good rainy morning from Waco, Texas. Linda
10:13:21 From  Tony Proctor  to  All panelists:
Message just came to me, 2 minutes ago: GEDCOM v7 is finally released  :-)  https://gedcom.io/
10:14:08 From  Kathleen Kelly Daetsch  to  Everyone:
In NYc I think the FDNY has the key and you have to get it at the firehouse.
10:14:22 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  All panelists:
ask tony if he wants to come on the panel
10:15:08 From  Cousin Russ  to  Tony Proctor and all panelists:
Do you want to come up into the Panel ?
10:16:02 From  Randy Seaver  to  All panelists:
Finally made it - problems updating Zoom
10:16:29 From  Pat Kuhn  to  All panelists:
I have to run,
10:16:47 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
What about Stube?
10:16:50 From  Kathleen Kelly Daetsch  to  Everyone:
That is where we got the word
10:17:14 From  Kathleen Kelly Daetsch  to  Everyone:
stoop came from the dutch
10:17:26 From  Patricia Jackson  to  Everyone:
I had one too!
10:17:48 From  Frank Jatzek  to  Everyone:
@marian: If you are reffering to the German word, thats used for Room, moreover the Living room aka the "gute Stube" (good room)
10:18:00 From  Dawn Carlile  to  Everyone:
I have a photo of m brother in one of those. We called it a stroller. His was blue as I recall.
10:18:07 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
Thanks, Frank!
10:19:20 From  John Boeren  to  Everyone:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoop_(architecture)
10:19:44 From  Dawn Carlile  to  Everyone:
It does have a handle.
10:19:46 From  Mary Lou Gravatt  to  Everyone:
Yesterday I found a picture of me at nine months with the same kind of stroller.
10:19:51 From  Kathleen Kelly Daetsch  to  Everyone:
I used to have a book that had a section of all the Dutch influence left here in NY
10:21:07 From  Cousin Russ  to  Everyone:
Genealogy Software Showcase - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAP7XYmOi9g
10:21:11 From  Dawn Carlile  to  Everyone:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stoop
10:21:26 From  Debbe Hagner  to  All panelists:
rootsmagic
10:21:51 From  Launa Droescher  to  Everyone:
legacy
10:21:59 From  Mary Lou Gravatt  to  Everyone:
I have been using Legacy family tree for the last several years.
10:22:27 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  All panelists:
https://youtu.be/J1lYuxF4aFw
10:22:34 From  Cousin Russ  to  Everyone:
https://youtu.be/J1lYuxF4aFw
10:23:49 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  All panelists:
https://legacyfamilytree.com/
10:23:53 From  Louis Kessler  to  Everyone:
I'm a regular heckler at Ed's Genealogy Software Showcase every Thursday.
10:23:56 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  All panelists:
https://www.mackiev.com/ftm/
10:24:03 From  Cousin Russ  to  Everyone:
https://legacyfamilytree.com/
10:24:05 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  All panelists:
https://www.rootsmagic.com/
10:24:14 From  Betty-Lu Burton  to  Everyone:
I have been enjoying Ed Thompson's videos on the various software programs
10:24:28 From  Frank Jatzek  to  Everyone:
Louis: Always makes me smile seeing you in the Chat
10:24:29 From  Debi Polen  to  Everyone:
Brothers Keeper
10:24:56 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  All panelists:
https://www.family-historian.co.uk/
10:25:05 From  Cousin Russ  to  Everyone:
https://www.family-historian.co.uk/
10:25:14 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
Mostly I useReunion on my Mac, but I switch to Legacy when I have to use a PC.
10:25:23 From  Louis Kessler  to  Everyone:
I'm now using MyHeritage and Family Tree Builder and started using WikiTree to write my profiles.
10:25:40 From  Kathleen Kelly Daetsch  to  Everyone:
Rootsmagic
10:26:21 From  Randy Seaver  to  Everyone:
I much prefer Legacy Family Tree for reports and statistics.
10:26:42 From  Cousin Russ  to  Everyone:
Message just came to me, 2 minutes ago: GEDCOM v7 is finally released  :-)  https://gedcom.io/
10:27:10 From  Randy Seaver  to  Everyone:
What happened to GEDCOM 6?
10:27:28 From  Tony Proctor  to  All panelists:
https://gedcom.io/specs/
10:27:42 From  Cousin Russ  to  Everyone:
https://gedcom.io/specs/
10:29:30 From  Debbe Hagner  to  All panelists:
It didn't handle the photo
10:31:20 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
I guess this means updates for all software packages?
10:31:32 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
Not necessarily in a hurry.
10:32:22 From  Frank Jatzek  to  Everyone:
If I understand this correct gedcom 7 simply links to the file, gedzip includes it
10:32:34 From  Sheri Snodgrass  to  Everyone:
Great news!!  Wonder how long for vendors to adopt it - have the vendors been looped in before today?
10:33:20 From  Betty-Lu Burton  to  Everyone:
RFN random family number? instead of MRIN
10:33:56 From  Louis Kessler  to  Everyone:
Randy: Family Search had a GEDCOM XML 6.0 Draft in 2000/2001 so FamilySearch chose to skip 6.0 and go to 7.0
10:35:15 From  Randy Seaver  to  Everyone:
Bruce Buzbee alays said that he could implement a new GEDCOM in a month in RootsMagic.  Game on!
10:35:47 From  Betty-Lu Burton  to  Everyone:
I wonder if this was what delayed RM 8
10:36:15 From  Frank Jatzek  to  Everyone:
Betty-Lu: nope that was the update of MacOS
10:37:09 From  Randy Seaver  to  Everyone:
it's just programming - put the right info in the right box!  right?
10:37:52 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
Is the new standard backward compatible with 5.5, supposing that there’s a software package that does actually generate a clean, compliant 5.5 Gedcom file?
10:38:23 From  Debbe Hagner  to  All panelists:
Louis - what software are you using?
10:39:04 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
Yes, take the time to get it right.
10:39:21 From  Frank Jatzek  to  All panelists:
brb
10:39:49 From  Debbe Hagner  to  All panelists:
I would love to get some help with WIKItree
10:39:58 From  Louis Kessler  to  All panelists:
www.beholdgenealogy.com
10:40:09 From  Cousin Russ  to  Everyone:
www.beholdgenealogy.com
10:41:17 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
Are you proud and satisfied with the new standard, Tony? Will it ease the ambiguities from 5.5?
10:41:29 From  Randy Seaver  to  Everyone:
of course, all of the online tree folks will have to implement it too - not just desktop software.
10:42:05 From  Louis Kessler  to  Everyone:
And Canada gets the 1931 census soon.
10:43:30 From  Tony Proctor  to  All panelists:
I am happy with the new version, although I would have been more radical myself -- the committee and individual vendors decided to hold back on some aspects -- more suprisingly (for me) RUFNAME
10:44:03 From  Robbin Smith  to  Everyone:
what is rufname?
10:45:09 From  Frank Jatzek  to  All panelists:
Rufname is the favorite first Name in German. Translated it would be something like "Call Name"
10:45:42 From  Frank Jatzek  to  Everyone:
Rufname is the favorite first Name in German. Translated it would be something like "Call Name
10:46:46 From  Marcia Philbrick  to  Everyone:
according to a comment on the announcement posted in RootsMagic Users on FB Bruce Buzbee was a member of the taskforce
10:46:49 From  John Boeren  to  Everyone:
like roepnaam in Dutch
10:47:42 From  Randy Seaver  to  Everyone:
PDF is at https://gedcom.io/specifications/FamilySearchGEDCOMv7.pdf
10:48:31 From  Frank Jatzek  to  Everyone:
Bruce and Mike from Rootsmagic was there...so Maybe intregrating it in RM8 will be done quickly
10:54:30 From  Janine Edmée Hakim  to  All panelists:
This was great...wow Dear Myrtle thank you
10:55:07 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
Yes, thanks to Tony and Louis, and to the rest of the people who persisted with the new standard!
10:56:23 From  Hilary Gadsby  to  Everyone:
There was some discussion in the user group for Family Historian in February about GEDCOM 7
10:57:49 From  Monta Lee Dakin  to  All panelists:
luv this discussion. as I am a true beginner, it is interesting to see who did what and when to improve things.
10:58:16 From  Randy Seaver  to  Everyone:
page 34 has the"Source - Record" spec with code names, I can't find SOURCE - CITATION
10:58:48 From  Randy Seaver  to  Everyone:
ah page 50 has SOURCE_CITATION
11:01:12 From  Debbe Hagner  to  All panelists:
suggestion to spotlight the speaker
11:02:02 From  Robbin Smith  to  Everyone:
change your view to speaker view?
11:02:56 From  Deb Levinson  to  All panelists:
Love the research plan there!
11:06:35 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  All panelists:
Please make comments to all panelists.
11:11:01 From  Janine Edmée Hakim  to  All panelists:
Argh !!!!!
11:11:29 From  Randy Seaver  to  Everyone:
NGSQ and NYGBR and NHGR all have a citation model that they prefer.  This is one more.
11:11:45 From  Randy Seaver  to  Everyone:
NEHGR...
11:13:08 From  Tony Proctor  to  All panelists:
Unusually, I used the EE scheme in a non-genealogy book that has 7 pages of notes (including source references and discursive notes)
11:14:14 From  Debbe Hagner  to  All panelists:
https://www.historicpathways.com/download/hpprocessmap.pdf
11:14:33 From  Tony Proctor  to  All panelists:
(oops, 18 pages of...)
11:14:55 From  Louis Kessler  to  Everyone:
https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Research_Process
11:16:02 From  Lori Martin  to  Everyone:
Someone named Tony must be talking about you, Myrt!  ;-)
11:16:31 From  Cousin Russ  to  Everyone:
Randy Seaver -- Book "Call Me John" by Michael Schoenholtz - review in https://www.geneamusings.com/2021/05/genealogy-book-review-call-me-john-by.html
11:17:39 From  Linda Stufflebean  to  Everyone:
I read Call Me John yesterday, based on Randy's recommendation. Quick read and I enjoyed the story.
11:17:52 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  All panelists:
Dave's question about LEIDEN is next
11:18:27 From  Frank Jatzek  to  Everyone:
Hillary: your Researchtask reminded me to look up the GRO index to find the mother of one of my relatives that came from Lewes and went to Canada
11:18:34 From  Janine Edmée Hakim  to  All panelists:
Sorry folks...got "kicked off" temporarily
11:21:20 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  All panelists:
https://www.amazon.com/Call-Me-John-Genealogical-Mystery-ebook/dp/B09156PYYQ/
11:22:42 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  All panelists:
https://www.erfgoedleiden.nl/pilgrimdocs/persons
11:22:45 From  Karen Looney  to  Everyone:
How do you handle labeling pictures with multiple families? I realize there are probably 8 different ways with eight different people on the panel. I am looking for ideas.
11:22:56 From  Cousin Russ  to  Everyone:
special database from Leiden about Pilgrim Fathers: ttps://www.erfgoedleiden.nl/pilgrimdocs/persons
11:23:04 From  Linda Stentz  to  All panelists:
I was unable to join in the Census Genie Zoom last Wednesday and have been unable to find the YouTube.  Can someone send me the link?
11:23:36 From  Debbe Hagner  to  All panelists:
Thank you! Take care - I need to eat lunch! sending you all big genealogy hugs!
11:23:46 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  Debbe Hagner and all panelists:
hugs!
11:23:55 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
Tamura Jones seems to research the Leiden group a lot.:https://www.tamurajones.net/
11:24:43 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  Marian koalski and all panelists:
What category on his website?
11:25:20 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  Marian koalski and all panelists:
am not using his website - it has a lot of 404 errors
11:25:48 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
Genealogy, I suppose.  It includes a lot of Gedcom posts but also Mayflower posts.
11:26:13 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  Marian koalski and all panelists:
every item on his home screen regarding the Pilgrims and Leiden returns an ERROR MESSAGE.
11:26:23 From  Frank Jatzek  to  Everyone:
John: how much did your Country suffer from record losses? Seeing records from 16something is so rare for me as a german Researcher,  that these come close to mirracles.
11:26:25 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  Marian koalski and all panelists:
I know him well. don't want to embarrass him
11:26:29 From  Dave Robison  to  Everyone:
"Speeling duzn't cownt"
11:27:03 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
I don’t get errors on this, for example:
11:27:04 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
https://www.tamurajones.net/TheBiggestMayflowerMyth.xhtml
11:27:21 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  Marian koalski and all panelists:
"This page contains the following errors:
error on line 14 at column 631: StartTag: invalid element name
Below is a rendering of the page up to the first error."
11:27:38 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  Marian koalski and all panelists:
using Chrome - latest update
11:27:51 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
Using Firefox, outdated version
11:27:59 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
LOL
11:28:08 From  Louis Kessler  to  Everyone:
https://twitter.com/LeidenPilgrims is Tamura's twitter account for his Leiden research.
11:29:56 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
Snipping Tool is free., meaning that library computers have it.
11:30:42 From  Louis Kessler  to  Everyone:
I also use Snagit and Paint.
11:31:42 From  Monta Lee Dakin  to  All panelists:
snagit costs.  anything you can suggest that is free?
11:32:27 From  Karen Looney  to  Everyone:
Thank you.
11:32:29 From  Randy Seaver  to  Everyone:
nobody said Photoshop, strange!
11:32:55 From  Tony Proctor  to  All panelists:
I did!
11:33:21 From  Cyndy Bray  to  Everyone:
I use Photoshop Elements. Not sure I can bring it up in that program
11:33:24 From  Randy Seaver  to  Everyone:
sorry Tony, I missed it.  I was thinking I guess...
11:33:57 From  Tony Proctor  to  All panelists:
For annotation, indexing, and searching, I write my own software
11:34:12 From  Cousin Russ  to  Everyone:
Robbin M Smith -- Million mito building a collaborative womens historical tree based on mitochondrria -- https://blog.familytreedna.com/join-the-million-mito-project/
11:34:35 From  John Boeren  to  All panelists:
Dave, please look at FB messenger... I sent you a message with two images.
11:35:03 From  Dave Robison  to  All panelists:
Thanks again, John! I'll check when we get done here.
11:35:28 From  Patricia Jackson  to  Everyone:
My mtDNA test is currently being processed. :)
11:35:50 From  Cousin Russ  to  Everyone:
Hilary Gadsby -- One of my husband's ancestors just got a mention in https://www.lostcousins.com/newsletters2/jun21news.htm?#Criack
11:36:26 From  Flo Merritt  to  Everyone:
Thank you
11:36:37 From  Janine Edmée Hakim  to  All panelists:
Ciao !!
11:36:52 From  Michael Nier  to  Everyone:
Thank you!
11:37:01 From  Laurie Desmarais  to  All panelists:
Have a wonderful day!!
11:37:12 From  Linda Freeto  to  All panelists:
Thank you for a great show.
11:37:22 From  Frank Jatzek  to  Everyone:
Get your pools ready

-------------------------------

If you value the interactive genealogy and journaling education provided in DearMYRTLE webinars, meetings, and videos, please consider donating. Thank you in advance. 
https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/DearMYRTLE