Friday, October 16, 2020

FindMyPast Friday: new rolls of honour, baptism and burial records

NOTE from DearMYRTLE: The following was just received from our friends at FindMyPast. 


Findmypast Friday: new rolls of honour, baptism and burial records

Explore First World War Rolls of Honour covering Caribbean troops who served with the British Army, new Kent parish records and a host of newspaper updates this Findmypast Friday.


Caribbean Rolls of Honour WW1

Trace military ancestors and their incredible stories in our new Caribbean Rolls of Honour. The records list soldiers from Jamaica and Trinidad and Tobago who served with the British Armed Forces during World War 1.

 

For Jamaica, which provided the largest Caribbean contingent to the British and Allied war effort, there are records for army officers from, or connected with, the island as well as NCOs and other ranks who lost their lives in the conflict. For Trinidad & Tobago, the collection is more complete and comprehensive. It is believed to contain the great majority of men who served in the War, including some who served with the French Army.

 

As well as soldiers of Afro-Caribbean descent, there are men from the Indian Sub-continent, presumably in most cases the descendants of indentured labourers, as well as men of Latino and Jewish heritage.

 

Releases for other islands in the Caribbean will be added to this collection over time.

 

Kent Baptisms

Over 7,000 parish baptisms covering Sutton-at-Hone, Woolwich and St Mary Cray have been added to the collection. Explore these transcripts and images of original church registers to discover new Kent family milestones.

 

Baptism records are essential for getting further in your family tree. They can reveal your ancestors' names, birth and baptism dates, where they lived and importantly, their parents' details.

Kent Burials

Was your ancestor laid to rest in Kent? Discover where and when they were buried with over 5,000 new burials from the parishes of Eltham and Thames & Medway.

 

Findmypast is home to one of the most comprehensive collections of Kent family records online. You can also delve into marriages and bannswills and probate indexes and poor law union records from the Garden of England.

 

Newspapers

This week, we’ve released four brand new papers and added more pages to 10 publications.

 

The latest titles to join our expanding archive include:

 

·         Civil & Military Gazette (Pakistan) covering 1884 and 1891-1893

·         Indian Statesman covering 1876

·         Weekly Dispatch (London) covering 1820-1829, 1831-1850 and 1852-1868

·         Kilrush Herald and Kilkee Gazette covering 1879-1880, 1889-1899, 1901-1919 and 1921-1922

And we've added even more issues to:

·         Huddersfield Daily Chronicle from 1883

·         Lloyd’s Weekly Newspaper from 1894 and 1901-1912

·         Dundee Courier from 1989

·         Cambridgeshire Times from 1872

·         Carmarthen Journal from 1841

·         Derby Daily Telegraph from 1990

·         Daily Mirror from 1994 and 1998-1999

·         Sligo Chronicle from 1880-1891

·         Marylebone Mercury from 1933, 1935 and 1938

·         Tralee Chronicle from 1881

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BCG Revises Genealogy Standard 57 to Allow Private Sharing of DNA Match Details

NOTE: The following was received from our friends at the Board for Certification of Genealogists. Please address all inquiries to office@BCGCertification.org .


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE – 15 Oct 2020
Board for Certification of Genealogists®, 
PO Box 14291, Washington, DC 20044



BCG Revises Genealogy Standard 57 to Allow Private Sharing of DNA Match Details

On 5 October 2020, trustees of the Board for Certification of Genealogists revised Standard 57 (respect for privacy rights) and the Genealogist’s Code of Ethics to allow private sharing of DNA match details. The changes also eliminate the need for test takers to provide written consent for use of their DNA data, although they must be informed about the pros and cons. These changes are effective immediately and will be incorporated into a future update of Genealogy Standards, 2nd edition. Though applicable to all genealogists, the changes respond to concerns about the use of genetic evidence in initial and renewal applications for credentialing. The trustees also approved answers to a series of frequently asked questions (FAQs) about Standard 57, two other DNA-related standards, and other issues involving the use of DNA test results in genealogical work. For the newly revised Genealogist’s Code of Ethics, access https://bcgcertification.org/ethics-standards/code.

Following is the revised Standard 57 in its entirety:
Standard 57 (Revised). Respect for privacy rights. When publishing DNA test results, genealogists respect the privacy of living people. Genealogists refrain from publishing information derived from DNA test results that may cause harm. Genealogists publish personally identifying information about living test takers only with their informed consent. Assembled research results acknowledge living test-takers’ consents for publishing their data shown therein. [See the Genealogy Standards glossary for definition of DNA test results.]

A series of DNA Frequently Asked Questions are accessible on the BCG website at https://bcgcertification.org/learning/dna-resources/dna-frequently-asked-questions-faq.

An upcoming BCG-sponsored webinar, “Using DNA Results to Confirm a Pedigree” presented by Angela Packer McGhie, CG, demonstrates the use of DNA test results to confirm traditional research. Register free before 20 October at BCG’s partner Legacy Family Tree Webinars website (http://legacy.familytreewebinars.com/?aid=5287) or view the webinar free for one week following the broadcast on the Legacy Family Tree Webinars website.

The words Certified Genealogist and its acronym, CG, are a registered certification mark, and the designations Certified Genealogical Lecturer and its acronym, CGL, are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists®, used under license by board certificants after periodic evaluation.



Wednesday, October 14, 2020

WACKY Wednesday - Database Sorting: Did they serve in the military?



DearREADERS,
Cousin Russ demonstrates a listing of US War dates with estimated ages of participants. He utilized Google to compiled a list of record sets in which to search for ancestors. Determining which ancestors is a matter of using a "filter" option in Family Tree Maker. He could specify a person living during the time of the war, and then gradually take each ancestor through the possible related databases.

You'll find Cousin Russ's post Color-coding and Civil War Soldiers blog post here.
We recommend using the Google Search to find where a specific record set may reside, depending on current contractual arrangements as these change over time.

DearMYRTLE used the RootsMagic-generated the "Who Was There List" as an alternative.

Surely your main-stream genealogy database program can be queried to find people who lived during the time period of a given war. TRY IT!
SPECIAL SEGMENT: Dr. Shelley Murphy discusses her full-time research with the University of Virginia's Memorial to Enslaved Laborers. She has identified over 500 individuals to date. See the video we explored here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol5rkxGe5vg



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Tuesday, October 13, 2020

MyHeritage: Norway Church Records (1815–1938)

NOTE from DearMYRTLE: The following was received from our friends at MyHeritage.

New historical record collection: Norway Church Records (1815–1938)

The records in this collection were digitized in collaboration with the National Archives of Norway (Arkivverket), and consist of 42.2 million indexed records and high quality scans of the original documents. The records include births & baptisms, marriages, and deaths & burials. This release is the first time the collection’s images are fully indexed and searchable — making it easier than ever to research your Norwegian ancestors. The addition doubles the number of Norwegian historical records on MyHeritage and brings the total number of historical records on MyHeritage to 12.6 billion.

Source: https://blog.myheritage.com/2020/10/myheritage-releases-major-collection-of-historical-norway-church-records-1815-1938/


The records in this collection cover a critical period in Norway’s history, beginning just one year after its secession from Denmark. This important collection helps overcome the significant gaps in Norwegian censuses taken from 1801 to 1865. Five censuses were collected in Norway during those years, but they did not record names of individuals, making the church records the definitive source for genealogical data during that period. 

Due to Norwegian privacy laws, the birth & baptism records released in this collection extend until 1919 (inclusive), the marriage records extend until 1937 (inclusive), and the death & burial records extend until 1938 (inclusive). 

In the Norway Church birth and baptism records, a child was often recorded with only his or her given name(s) without an expressly recorded surname, as it was assumed the child would take either a patronymic surname from their father or take a hereditary surname. To overcome the challenge of the missing surname, MyHeritage inferred two possible surname variations for each individual, so users can search for either the patronymic or hereditary surname to find the correct record. MyHeritage indexed the surname variations to make them discoverable, but the actual records were not modified, and the surnames were not inserted into them, to preserve their authenticity.

The Norway Church Records (1815–1938) collection is an indispensable resource for anyone who is looking to learn more about their Norwegian roots during this time period. With the release of this collection, MyHeritage now offers 80 million historical records from Norway, 57 million historical records from neighboring Sweden, and 107 million records from Denmark, positioning MyHeritage as the leader in Scandinavian family history research.

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Monday, October 12, 2020

Mondays with Myrt - 12 Oct 2020



DearREADERS,
Divorce, a contested will and info about canning jams and pickles were our main topics during Mondays with Myrt. We also reviewed how to look things up in the FamilySearch Wiki, specifically for a quick-study of court records in various US states. It's about learning the name of a court, and what type of cases it handles. Taking Mag's example of South Carolina research, we then went to the "SEARCH>CATALOG" option at FamilySearch to see what was available for her research.

Sadly, it has come to our attention that a new entity has apparently been using the names of top-tier professional African American genealogist to garner attention for it's new venture. Nicka Smith writes “There exist several documented incidents wherein BOAAG has falsely claimed formal association between itself and several noted genealogical professionals and speakers without their knowledge or consent.” Statement of non-support http://www.whoisnickasmith.com/genealogy/non-support-boaag/ My dear readers will note I have added my name to the statement.

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00:07:58 Patricia Jackson: Hi from Kentucky
00:08:01 Betty-Lu Burton: I remembered this week
00:08:06 Sheri Snodgrass: Hello everyone from sunny Iowa
00:08:13 Laila Christiansen: Hi all from Oslo Norway! 
00:08:23 Molly McKinley: Hi from Florida
00:08:24 Linda Stufflebean: I'm in still hot Tucson. 100 highs again this week.
00:08:30 Cynthia Hall: Caddo Mills, Texas
00:08:30 Betty-Lu Burton: Hi from Arkansas
00:08:33 Melissa Barker: Hello Everyone! The Archive Lady is here. I'm off for Columbus Day!
00:08:33 Sheryl Whisenhunt: Hello from Pollock Pines, California.
00:08:44 Maria Capaldi: Hello Everyone!
00:08:44 Mags Gaulden: Hey from Thanksgiving Day in Canada!
00:08:45 Frank Jatzek: Hi Melissa
00:08:45 Lindell Johnson: I listening/seeing you from Albany, OR
00:08:49 Penny Walters: Hello from the south west of the UK, Bristol City 
00:08:53 Mags Gaulden: Ottawa
00:08:54 Randy Seaver: I'm from Chula Vista CA south of San Diego.  Expecting warm weather and Santa Ana winds this week.
00:08:55 Else Bratlien: Hi from Santa Rosa California
00:08:59 char Espo: New Mexico
00:09:11 Doris Lanier: Hi from Garrett Indiana
00:09:11 Kathleen Daetsch: from nyc
00:09:18 Sue Tolbert: Hi from Oklahoma!
00:09:20 Melanie Hinds: From Illinois - Chicago area
00:09:46 Cousin Russ: Tina - do you have a question ?
00:10:05 Cyndy Bray: oops forgot to change to everyone. Hi from Central California
00:10:07 Monique Riley: in Idaho
00:10:22 Maria Capaldi: Sounds good
00:10:44 Hilary Gadsby: I am in the Conwy valley in North Wales
00:10:44 Myra Lindgren: good morning from Wyoming
00:10:47 Penny Walters: hi from Bristol, UK
00:10:49 Randy Seaver: and Alona's koalas
00:10:52 Kathy Richardson: Salt Lake City, UT
00:11:01 Molly McKinley: It's still in the high 80's here in Florida
00:11:06 Kathleen Daetsch: We're in the 50's today
00:11:16 Cousin Russ: John Boeren Divorce in the Netherlands. https://www.antecedentia.com/2020/10/brandina-hendriks-divorce-part2/
00:11:28 Robbin Smith: goin to be in 90s in Miami
00:11:36 Myra Lindgren: less smoke here thank you to the wind...
00:12:08 Pat Kuhn: in the 50’s and raining here in Central Pennsylvania
00:12:36 Cousin Russ: Married, Divorced, Married https://www.antecedentia.com/2020/10/married-divorced-married/

00:14:15 Maria Capaldi: I'd say
00:17:38 Frank Jatzek: Btw. I like the Dutch words for marriage Certificate: "Huwelijks Akte" 
00:18:29 Randy Seaver: One of my favorite sayings is "Real life is much more complex than fiction"
00:19:12 Frank Jatzek: Randy: Real Life still writes the best Stories
00:19:35 Judy Sova: wow.  wish we had that.
00:20:10 Randy Seaver: And we're stuck with records that reflect only official moments in time, except for family lore and newspaper articles
00:20:38 Betty-Lu Burton: I have seen a few marriage records with a divorce or an annulment note, but usually when the divorce happened near the time of marriage or in the same place of the marriage
00:22:17 marian koalski: Marriage packets in some PA counties do have documents like a divorce decree from an earlier marriage.
00:23:53 Sheri Snodgrass: Husband's gr grandfather filed for divorce in 1862 in IL as he was abandoned - she left to a 'far away state'.
00:24:17 Kathleen Daetsch: I don't think NY checks either, I was a widow and when I remarried I didn't need to present my late husband's death cert. 
00:24:51 Randy Seaver: some states now have divorce record indexes online, but I'm not sure that we can access divorce case files except by going to the local courthouse
00:24:57 Michelle Minner: I have been married 4 times....and each time, the states (Georgia, Florida, PA) all took my word that my divorces were final
00:25:33 Melissa Barker: My great grandfather divorced my great grandmother in 1940 and ALSO went to the courts and had her committed to an insane asylum just so he could marry another woman. He married that woman 2 weeks after the divorce and my great grandmother spent 15 years in the asylum. I have the divorce and commitment records and my grandmother told me this story. 
00:25:41 Frank Jatzek: I have to look into the documents of my mothers Father since his former Family thought he where killed in the war. Instead he felt in love with my mothers mom and the rest is history...I never checked if there are divorce documents
00:26:21 Maria Capaldi: Hi Mag!
00:26:48 Maria Capaldi: HI Melissa :-)
00:27:12 marian koalski: Melissa Barker, what a frightening story! I’ve heard of those things happening but not from a family member’s account.
00:27:35 Maria Capaldi: I agree Marian
00:28:15 Cynthia Hall: Texas has divorce indexes
00:29:11 Robbin Smith: My sister's divorce is shown on ancestry for Virginia

00:30:07 Betty-Lu Burton: My great-grandfather's divorce records from his second wife is in his their son's dependent pension file
00:30:56 Kathleen Daetsch: This is why we have so many bigamy fraud cases in this country. I think there should be a way of checking if someone is married
00:31:51 Sheri Snodgrass: Love those criminals - more documentation!
00:33:03 Pam Wade: Hi Mags. I live in South Carolina and most of my family is from here and N.C. What are your family names from S.C., N.C. & Georgia?
00:35:36 Kathleen Daetsch: I believe  New York courts are county and State
00:35:40 Molly McKinley: My Gaffney's are from 96th District
00:37:29 Molly McKinley: My Hames line was from Union County, SC
00:38:18 Frank Jatzek: Always remember the Information you are looking for might only be in the Indexes or the actual Pages and vice versa (most of the time because stuff got lost)
00:40:03 Randy Seaver: some counties moved older records to county archives - San Diego has pre-1920 records at San Diego Historical Society
00:40:31 Betty-Lu Burton: I have seen newspaper notices that said as of this date I am no longer responsible for my wife's debts
00:40:51 Judy Sova: Here they're called Judgment of Divorce.  Could be under "judgments."
00:42:14 Mags Gaulden: @Pam Wade - Do I not know you? LOL Gaulden, McElmoyle, Hunt, Templeton, I have a complete list on my WikiTree Profile, under Surnames.
00:42:29 Maria Capaldi: OMG! they are aweful
00:43:12 Pam Wade: Ok I will look. 
00:43:22 Liv Christensen: A publication by the state called Norsk Lysningsblad published information about divorce. The last time they published about a specific person seems to be in the 1970's.
00:44:26 Molly McKinley: My grandmother's first marriage was ended in Arkansas in the very early 1900's with no proof.  My cousin thinks they just decided to call it quits and go on with life.
00:45:51 Maria Capaldi: lol
00:46:25 marian koalski: Molly, that apparently happened among my relatives when they didn’t have money or time for lawyers and courts.
00:46:32 Flo Merritt: Thank you Hilary :-)
00:46:58 Bobbie Christensen: In  colonial times, and sometimes into the mid-1800’s, you had to get a bill passed in the state legislature in order to get a divorce. Check the annual printed records of the actions of the state legislature for records of the bills passed, under divorce or the individual last name.
00:51:35 Cynthia Hall: If the legislature to approve divorces in this day and age, that is all they would be doing?
00:51:47 Cousin Russ: link to my "mason jar++"; https://www.facebook.com/liv.b.christensen.1/
00:53:25 Maria Capaldi: How about that! Cool
00:53:48 Cynthia Hall: I miss my set of German stoneware!

There is a second type with just one clamp
00:55:37 Betty-Lu Burton: I believe food with high sugar or salt content do not need to be sealed as well as those with lower sugar and salt
00:55:42 Pam Wade: When making jelly and jam I fill the jars up, put the lids on and flip the jars upside down for five minutes. Then when you turn them over, them are sealed and can be stored in your cabinets or pantry.
00:56:17 Betty-Lu Burton: Pam I use to do that with my jams 
00:56:23 Pam Wade: Jellies and jams can last for years.
00:56:38 Maria Capaldi: it reminds me of Williamsburg, VA
00:56:46 marian koalski: One of my women relatives got a patent for a fruit jar in about the 1880s.
00:56:52 Sheri Snodgrass: Not pickles but sauerkraut
00:56:59 Pam Wade: My Mama made sour pickles.
00:57:02 Molly McKinley: We made salt pickles with a big crock like that...they were horrible...lol
00:57:06 Betty-Lu Burton: My grandmother did watermelon pickles
00:57:08 Frank Jatzek: we did in normal canning glasses like the ones I showed above
00:57:10 Kathleen Daetsch: ripening tomatoes in a paper bag with an apple will make them ripen faster
00:58:10 Melinda Culpon: gasket
00:58:19 Monique Riley: Yes, don't store apples with other things. Apples need to be stored them separately from other produce because they're big ethylene gas emitters. We can't get canning lids and really needed some for our produce. Even looked in Utah. No luck!
00:58:31 Pam Wade: I have hundreds of mason jars from the times I canned. One year I canned 100 jars of tomatoes. I did it for my husband, who loved them.
00:58:46 Hilary Gadsby: We called these Kilner jars when I was growing up
00:58:47 Melinda Culpon: gasket is what the ring is called
00:59:41 Maria Capaldi: Yes Kathleen my Dad did the same thing and put in our basement b/c of it being cool. The other thing he did would put our poinsettia's after the holiday down too(not in a bag) they would come back sometimes...
01:00:05 John Boeren: I visited an old house years ago, they told us that they found jars with food in the cellar when renovating the place... hundreds of years old... some of the food was still edible... wouldn't try that! this is the house: https://www.dekemastate.nl/
01:00:30 Hilary Gadsby: We sealed Jams and jelly with waxed disks and covered jar with paper or fabric circle and elastic band
01:00:50 Kathleen Daetsch: I have a very old crock.
01:00:52 Danine Cozzens: Hilary,
01:01:05 Danine Cozzens: My paternal grandmother put brown paper soaked in whiskey on top of her jam (1950s). Maternal gm used paraffin.

01:02:14 Hilary Gadsby: I made courgette chutney this year
01:02:28 Molly McKinley: We left them for a long time.  They just were way too salty.
01:04:16 Mags Gaulden: How long can wine and other stuff survive from Archealogy finds - seawrecks!!?
01:04:52 Maria Tegtmeier: I have often used USU's website https://extension.usu.edu/utah/home_family_food/food_preservation_canning
01:05:15 Maria Tegtmeier: for canning
01:05:17 Molly McKinley: I have some of those books from early 1900's when my grandparents moved to Florida.
01:06:02 John Boeren: the jars with a rubber ring and lid, we call weckpot... many images on google :)
01:06:08 Cynthia Hall: My son makes his own mozzarella cheese.
01:06:12 Mags Gaulden: Fig Preserves!
01:06:20 Pam Wade: In S.C. we have the Clemson Cooperative Extension service
01:06:43 Mags Gaulden: Blue Cheese from Clemson!
01:07:39 Pat Kuhn: I have some Weck jars
01:08:13 Frank Jatzek: Mags: very Long. I have seen a report where they found old mead from Egyptian time and it was consumable. they even could save and revitalize some of the yeast
01:08:47 Kathy Richardson: My parents, both born in Utah, called the process, “bottling” and called the glass containers, “bottles” not “jars”
01:08:54 Cousin Russ: “There exist several documented incidents wherein BOAAG has falsely claimed formal association between itself and several noted genealogical professionals and speakers without their knowledge or consent.” Statement of non-support http://www.whoisnickasmith.com/genealogy/non-support-boaag/
01:09:43 Maria Capaldi: I read this!!  Unbelievable!! 


DearMYRTLE and Cousin Russ recognize the United Nations' International Decade for People of African Descent 2015-2024. We reach out to all regardless of race, color, creed, sexual orientation or national origin with support for researching family and documenting cultural inheritance.

01:13:35 Maria Capaldi: I agree!
01:13:43 Cousin Russ: We thank Dr. Shelley Murphy for sponsoring our Closed Captioning service for the year. Her blog is found here: https://familytreegirl.com/
01:14:14 John Boeren: we have a long history of fostering children in our families
01:14:47 Michelle Grant: Thanks for the links and for this webinar. 
01:16:45 Cousin Russ: .
01:17:27 Frank Jatzek: Randy: that's a lot of text to transcribe. I bet this was an amazing find and source
01:17:39 Maria Capaldi: I can attest to that Myrt is very helpful, sympathetic and genuine! 
01:19:31 Frank Jatzek: the Signature by Thomas looks very nice
01:27:49 Frank Jatzek: that goes for the polish digitalized church and civil records as well. The old Index has lower Quality then the new index!
01:29:18 Randy Seaver: Ancestry has indexes for state wills and probates, but they miss a lot of names.  And their list of "books" ior case numbers are out of numerical order.  It's a pain.  
01:30:01 Cousin Russ: Miss Peggy Lauritzen makes progress! That's all that I did. I didn't enter information. I didn't tag anyone. I simply uploaded the scans for their family to find someday. Here is an example of one of them. I am not related to this man - but, someone is. https://alwaysanxiouslyengaged.blogspot.com/2020/10/because-of-those-obituaries-and-funeral.html
01:30:08 Randy Seaver: Frank, I did each of those posts in less than an hour.  I have over 300 probate record posts - one a week piles up fast! 
01:30:16 Maria Capaldi: Love Miss Peggy!!!!
01:31:12 Maria Capaldi: So thoughtful!
01:32:18 Randy Seaver: In the 1600s and 1700s, almost every New England ancestor of mine (maybe 70-80% of them) had a probate record because they owned land, often several parcels. 
01:32:29 Kathleen Daetsch: I was supposed to go last month
01:33:17 Cousin Russ: Just Genealogy Halloween Dance in Second Life. Skeleton counting contest, maze, carnival. You’ll need to take the tour!
01:33:19 Frank Jatzek: I am
01:33:34 Maria Capaldi: Me, trying to figure it out still....lol
01:35:53 Maria Capaldi: Thank you very much everyone!
01:35:58 Cousin Russ: Robbin Smith Finding your roots airs on Tuesday Night on US PBS Stations. https://www.pbs.org/show/finding-your-roots/
01:36:03 Cynthia Hall: Mid Atlantic Genealogical Society (MAGS) is having a virtual conference this weekend.
01:37:36 Hilary Gadsby: Who Do You Think You Are is back this evening in the UK

01:37:58 Flo Merritt: Thank you for another great session
01:38:01 Cynthia Hall: Sorry.  MAGS is the Mid-Atlantic Germanic Society.
01:38:02 Mags Gaulden: I like MAGS
01:38:29 John Boeren: Thanks for joining today, Mags! :)
01:39:41 Mags Gaulden: Always a pleasure John.
01:40:07 Pat Kuhn: it is the same for a death certificate in New York City
01:40:44 Hilary Gadsby: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007t575/broadcasts/upcoming
01:41:35 Frank Jatzek: Reminds me a bit of Berlin Civil Register Offices. you have to know in what street an Event happened because even one number more or less can end you up in a different civil Office district
01:42:16 Sheri Snodgrass: Like the British version of WDYTYA better than the US version
01:43:29 Maria Capaldi: We don't get it :-(
01:43:41 Maria Capaldi: Cool, ill check there.



Wednesday, October 07, 2020

What to do with records of Female Ancestors



DearREADERS,

Based on a discussion in The Organized Genealogist Facebook Group, we tackle the question of what to do with the records of our female ancestors. It all boils down to whether she keeps her maiden name or not, as a cultural influence where she lived, and what system works for each researcher.

We used the example of Pat's father, who married four times. We also delved into the situation where we had much for a woman's married life, then discovered her maiden name. Research on that maiden name takes on a new focus, as we attempt to discover her parents and grandparents. And then there's the problem of what to do when we find other people in the same place and time who have the same surname/maiden name, but we have not yet proved if they are related to our family.

We agreed it's best to make a digital copy of everything found to identify an ancestress. We also agreed that although we may put trees up on websites for the hints that can crop up, it is best to have our complete and most accurate database on our personal computers, backed up to the cloud in case of disaster like a hard drive failure, or calamities from Mother Nature.

Below my signature, find the unedited comments from attendees.






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19:01:37 From  Myra Lindgren : Good evening everyone......It was an easily made decision not to watch the debate...
19:01:48 From  Flo Merritt : Hello all
19:02:21 From  Pat Jackson  to  All panelists : hi from Kentucky. have the debate on mute.
19:05:15 From  Launa Droescher : I use last names. ie. merritt-tillitson_1938 for marriage
19:05:40 From  Betty-Lu Burton : Does blank spaces count in that 256 character count
19:09:10 From  Betty-Lu Burton : We are thinking English centric research. Both my Norwegian and Italian lines the woman keep her maiden name and even her death record is listed under the maiden name
19:09:47 From  Myra Lindgren : Same here with the Swedish and Danish.
19:09:54 From  Betty-Lu Burton : I only have the mic on my computer
19:10:21 From  David Hopper  to  All panelists : English speakers favor farther for physical distances and further for figurative distances.
19:11:22 From  Marcia White  to  All panelists : That is also true of French-Canadians until about 50-100 yrs. ago.  A woman kept her maiden name for her entire life.
19:11:25 From  Sheri Snodgrass : From Grammerly:  People use both further and farther to mean “more distant.” However, American English speakers favor farther for physical distances and further for figurative distances.
19:14:44 From  carencay bowen  to  All panelists : Korean / Japanese - women keep their maiden name all their life. Its the children that take on the fathers lastname
19:15:59 From  Pat Jackson : yes
19:16:08 From  Betty-Lu Burton : Remember to change from panelist to panelist and attendees
19:16:29 From  Myra Lindgren : Same here Betty - am at the desktop.
19:17:18 From  Sheri Snodgrass : The system that is best for each of us is the one that we will use consistently
19:17:22 From  Susan Bleimehl  to  All panelists : Sorry, looks like my headset is not going to carry the mic, it just lets me hear you.
19:18:34 From  Betty-Lu Burton : One thing that will determine the folder system is going to be what happens to the woman's name when they get married
19:18:49 From  Pat Jackson : good point, Sheri
19:21:34 From  Betty-Lu Burton : I have been going back and forth on whether I want to do a separate file for may Italian family while I am working on the records in Aosta, Italy
19:21:40 From  Sheri Snodgrass : I have separate trees for me and hubby (no children) and have recently realized we have a cross family connection - my uncle by marriage is his 2nd cousin.
19:23:30 From  Linda Morgan Clark  to  All panelists : I like what Myrt did with her dad's wives. I need to do something similar for my brother's 9 wives (you got that right - 9!)
19:29:09 From  Sheri Snodgrass : What messes me up is when they hyphenate only the kids surnames - ugh! 
19:29:35 From  Pat Jackson : I agree with Russ
19:29:39 From  Kathy Richardson : A woman disappears into her husband’s surname. I use my maiden name as my middle name
19:29:40 From  Linda Morgan Clark  to  All panelists : Sometimes women take back their birth surname when they get a divorce, or their spouse dies
19:30:39 From  Pat Jackson : I do also, Kathy, and my maiden name is Richardson, lol.
19:31:41 From  Marcia White  to  All panelists : I agree with Russ.  I was taught, 30 yrs ago to always use maiden names for females and have followed that advise successfully.  For my husband and myself, most of our immigrant ancestors to back to 17th century MA, but it has caused no confusion
19:31:49 From  Betty-Lu Burton : I choose a main name and then do a alternate name when I find them with a different spelling of the names and then I attach the record to the alternate name also
19:32:23 From  Kathy Richardson : Pat, my maiden name is Cox. They were Quakers in PA, NC, KY and IN as they migrated
19:32:41 From  Marcia White  to  All panelists : I rely on my genealogy program for connections
19:33:14 From  Sheri Snodgrass : Just realized hubby's cousin's wife's given name included her mother's maiden name as her middle name - don't see that often for women.
19:34:44 From  Betty-Lu Burton : My document files are by surname, but my source citations in my software are by location
19:34:53 From  Pat Jackson : I have lots of PA to OH Quakers. only Cox name I can think of is on a different line. My Quakers were Palmers, mostly.
19:39:24 From  Betty-Lu Burton : In the early days when I would be finding several families in the same microfilm or book, I then kept those records by place
19:40:24 From  Sheri Snodgrass : Had a discussion over the weekend about this how to order - and recommended if you have a physical order that makes sense to you then order your computer files the same way.
19:43:31 From  Betty-Lu Burton : I have done that many times to. It would always take me a few minutes to figure out how to use the microfilm printer. 
19:45:04 From  Betty-Lu Burton : How things have changed from the days when I copied pages of IGI micro fiche to work on my family
19:45:37 From  Sheri Snodgrass : Save originals of important or sentimental items
19:46:38 From  Flo Merritt : If possible, every thing should be saved digitally. But...Originals or only known copies should be kept forever. 
19:46:42 From  Susan Bleimehl  to  All panelists : I tend to only keep the digital copies. Although I still keep the photocopied Civil War pension file that I photocopied at NARA.
19:46:45 From  carencay bowen  to  All panelists : keep Birth x Marriage x Death and Censuses x Military plus photos (under 20 , 30s x Older)
19:49:02 From  Myra Lindgren : Digitalizing everything. Originals are in the safe.
19:50:16 From  Sheri Snodgrass : Discussion with folks in flood or fire zones makes me want to have everything digitally just in case.
19:50:39 From  Launa Droescher : they should be scanned also
19:51:31 From  Pat Jackson : I don’t plan to get rid of my dad’s binders. would like to scan them but they’re huge and have tiny tabs down the side for generations.
19:52:37 From  Launa Droescher : while I research copy to ever note also  past image into evernote
19:53:18 From  Susan Bleimehl  to  All panelists : I use it to keep notes of things to retrieve from archives, but most of my notes go into FTM.
19:54:18 From  Kathleen Daetsch : I have used evernote It's great to use while you are doing research on that family  
19:55:09 From  Myra Lindgren : Roots Magic only.
19:55:56 From  Marcia White  to  All panelists : In Roots Magic I have one db for my family and one for my husband's.  In My Heritage it is just one.
19:55:58 From  Susan Bleimehl  to  All panelists : Only FTM.
19:56:03 From  Kathleen Daetsch : yes I have done that also.
19:56:06 From  Pam Wade : Roots Magic only
19:56:14 From  Flo Merritt : FTM
19:56:15 From  Sheri Snodgrass : I have a main tree database and several working for other lines/families in FMT
19:56:18 From  Sheri Snodgrass : FTM
19:56:32 From  Pat Jackson : I work in Ancestry and back up to FTM
19:56:57 From  Linda Morgan Clark  to  All panelists : I have 2. One is a total mess, the other is my "clean" one. I drag and drop between them. 
19:57:02 From  Pat Jackson : yes
19:57:11 From  Sheri Snodgrass : Like Pat - I have separate trees on Ancestry
19:57:12 From  Susan Bleimehl  to  All panelists : Tree at Ancestry is my test one.
19:57:30 From  Myra Lindgren : Ancestry, Family Search, and multiple other genealogy sites.
19:57:46 From  Pat Jackson : I have a DNA spec tree and a “real” tree
19:57:51 From  carencay bowen  to  All panelists : Ancestry = 4 trees / MyHeritage = 2 trees / Family Search = 1 tree / Software
19:58:04 From  Pam Wade : Ancestry, Family Search, My Heritage and Wiki Tree
19:58:10 From  Janet Iles : one database for my family -- Brother's Keeper; but I download my Ancestry tree into RootsMagic (not as many names); 
19:58:23 From  Susan Bleimehl  to  All panelists : That's an excellent idea.
19:58:31 From  Launa Droescher : main one is in Legacy, with bits and pieces  on MyHeritage,  Familysearch, Ancestry
19:59:41 From  Kathleen Daetsch : I will set up a second tree to try to figure out how a group of people are related to each other. 
20:00:02 From  Pat Jackson : I have unproved DNA matches in my spec tree and hope to someday connect. by having them in there with my people it’s easier to see common surnames.
20:03:02 From  Kathleen Daetsch : My gg grandmother was married to her brother in  laws cousins, I had a separate tree for that group so I could figure out how they were all related.
20:03:58 From  Sheri Snodgrass : Great discussion!   
20:04:28 From  Sheri Snodgrass : Did a class on Ancestry downloading and had someone say - didn't realize he needed to download it.
20:04:43 From  Marcia White  to  All panelists : So interesting and much food for thought!
20:05:06 From  Flo Merritt : Thank you! 
20:05:10 From  Myra Lindgren : Thank you! I enjoyed this much more than watching the debate.
20:05:31 From  Kathleen Daetsch : good ideas but I still have a mess of files.
20:06:52 From  Kathleen Daetsch : thank you good meeting


Friday, September 25, 2020

Writing Inspiration


DearREADERS,
Several have inquired about writing prompts, so this video shares some of the hard copy resources I'm using. It's all about telling my personal history and ancestral anecdotes one topic per small journal, as I proceed with this plan to share info with my less genealogy-oriented children and grandchildren. 

What are you using for inspiration?

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Writing Inspiration (2:50)
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Thursday, September 24, 2020

Small Autumnal Journal and Dad's D in English



DearREADERS,
Ol' Myrt here is crafting a variety of small journals to share personal history anecdotes and ancestral findings with her children and grandchildren. Plain old pedigree charts and family group sheets just won't cut it. Here are two videos about the flip journal I've created to talk about how my Dad, ever the perfectionist, received a D in English, while another grade looks as if it has been changed. Crazy!

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Small Autumnal Journal and  Dad's D in English - Part 1 (19:25)
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Small Autumnal Journal - Part 2 (6:31)
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