Monday, June 07, 2021

ARCHIVED: Mondays with Myrt - 7 June 2021 including GEDCOM 7.0 info



DearREADERS,
Ol' Myrt here just loves it when a plan comes together! Today's groundbreaking news about the release of GEDCOM 7.0 came within minutes of starting today's webinar, thanks to Tony Proctor, a member of the FamilySearch/GEDCOM development team.







SELECTED CHAT
10:02:17 From  Cyndy Bray  to  Everyone:
Good morning from Newman California
10:02:28 From  Frank Jatzek  to  Everyone:
Linda: 80 for me at the moment
10:02:36 From  Lisa  to  Everyone:
Hello from Mansfield, Texas!
10:02:52 From  Judy Sova  to  Everyone:
Hi Everyone!  Greetings from an almost-sunny Detroit.
10:02:54 From  Sheri Snodgrass  to  All panelists:
Hello from super warm Iowa
10:03:03 From  Frank Jatzek  to  Everyone:
Crossing fingers for you Myrt
10:03:04 From  Lisa  to  Everyone:
Having to do Closed Caption today!
10:03:48 From  Flo Merritt  to  Everyone:
Hello from Benton County, Oregon
10:04:06 From  Sheri Snodgrass  to  Everyone:
Hello from very warm Iowa
10:04:42 From  Barbara Christensen  to  Everyone:
Hi from Granite Bay, CA

ANNOUNCING! The return of GENEALOGY GAME NIGHT
this coming Wednesday, 9 June 2021 beginning at 9pm Eastern US. No extra registration required. Newbies may register for WACKY Wednesday here:
https://zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_c1I5_Qc6QMSFV1axgWcSyw


10:05:27 From  Dawn Carlile  to  Everyone: 
Genealogy Game Night was lots of fun to play. 20 Questions for genealogy. It really stretches your skills.

10:05:40 From  Char Mitts  to  All panelists:
Hello from Kansas
10:07:13 From  Frank Jatzek  to  Everyone:
you can even see the glass door
10:12:57 From  Linda Freeto  to  All panelists:
Good rainy morning from Waco, Texas. Linda
10:13:21 From  Tony Proctor  to  All panelists:
Message just came to me, 2 minutes ago: GEDCOM v7 is finally released  :-)  https://gedcom.io/
10:14:08 From  Kathleen Kelly Daetsch  to  Everyone:
In NYc I think the FDNY has the key and you have to get it at the firehouse.
10:14:22 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  All panelists:
ask tony if he wants to come on the panel
10:15:08 From  Cousin Russ  to  Tony Proctor and all panelists:
Do you want to come up into the Panel ?
10:16:02 From  Randy Seaver  to  All panelists:
Finally made it - problems updating Zoom
10:16:29 From  Pat Kuhn  to  All panelists:
I have to run,
10:16:47 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
What about Stube?
10:16:50 From  Kathleen Kelly Daetsch  to  Everyone:
That is where we got the word
10:17:14 From  Kathleen Kelly Daetsch  to  Everyone:
stoop came from the dutch
10:17:26 From  Patricia Jackson  to  Everyone:
I had one too!
10:17:48 From  Frank Jatzek  to  Everyone:
@marian: If you are reffering to the German word, thats used for Room, moreover the Living room aka the "gute Stube" (good room)
10:18:00 From  Dawn Carlile  to  Everyone:
I have a photo of m brother in one of those. We called it a stroller. His was blue as I recall.
10:18:07 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
Thanks, Frank!
10:19:20 From  John Boeren  to  Everyone:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoop_(architecture)
10:19:44 From  Dawn Carlile  to  Everyone:
It does have a handle.
10:19:46 From  Mary Lou Gravatt  to  Everyone:
Yesterday I found a picture of me at nine months with the same kind of stroller.
10:19:51 From  Kathleen Kelly Daetsch  to  Everyone:
I used to have a book that had a section of all the Dutch influence left here in NY
10:21:07 From  Cousin Russ  to  Everyone:
Genealogy Software Showcase - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAP7XYmOi9g
10:21:11 From  Dawn Carlile  to  Everyone:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stoop
10:21:26 From  Debbe Hagner  to  All panelists:
rootsmagic
10:21:51 From  Launa Droescher  to  Everyone:
legacy
10:21:59 From  Mary Lou Gravatt  to  Everyone:
I have been using Legacy family tree for the last several years.
10:22:27 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  All panelists:
https://youtu.be/J1lYuxF4aFw
10:22:34 From  Cousin Russ  to  Everyone:
https://youtu.be/J1lYuxF4aFw
10:23:49 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  All panelists:
https://legacyfamilytree.com/
10:23:53 From  Louis Kessler  to  Everyone:
I'm a regular heckler at Ed's Genealogy Software Showcase every Thursday.
10:23:56 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  All panelists:
https://www.mackiev.com/ftm/
10:24:03 From  Cousin Russ  to  Everyone:
https://legacyfamilytree.com/
10:24:05 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  All panelists:
https://www.rootsmagic.com/
10:24:14 From  Betty-Lu Burton  to  Everyone:
I have been enjoying Ed Thompson's videos on the various software programs
10:24:28 From  Frank Jatzek  to  Everyone:
Louis: Always makes me smile seeing you in the Chat
10:24:29 From  Debi Polen  to  Everyone:
Brothers Keeper
10:24:56 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  All panelists:
https://www.family-historian.co.uk/
10:25:05 From  Cousin Russ  to  Everyone:
https://www.family-historian.co.uk/
10:25:14 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
Mostly I useReunion on my Mac, but I switch to Legacy when I have to use a PC.
10:25:23 From  Louis Kessler  to  Everyone:
I'm now using MyHeritage and Family Tree Builder and started using WikiTree to write my profiles.
10:25:40 From  Kathleen Kelly Daetsch  to  Everyone:
Rootsmagic
10:26:21 From  Randy Seaver  to  Everyone:
I much prefer Legacy Family Tree for reports and statistics.
10:26:42 From  Cousin Russ  to  Everyone:
Message just came to me, 2 minutes ago: GEDCOM v7 is finally released  :-)  https://gedcom.io/
10:27:10 From  Randy Seaver  to  Everyone:
What happened to GEDCOM 6?
10:27:28 From  Tony Proctor  to  All panelists:
https://gedcom.io/specs/
10:27:42 From  Cousin Russ  to  Everyone:
https://gedcom.io/specs/
10:29:30 From  Debbe Hagner  to  All panelists:
It didn't handle the photo
10:31:20 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
I guess this means updates for all software packages?
10:31:32 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
Not necessarily in a hurry.
10:32:22 From  Frank Jatzek  to  Everyone:
If I understand this correct gedcom 7 simply links to the file, gedzip includes it
10:32:34 From  Sheri Snodgrass  to  Everyone:
Great news!!  Wonder how long for vendors to adopt it - have the vendors been looped in before today?
10:33:20 From  Betty-Lu Burton  to  Everyone:
RFN random family number? instead of MRIN
10:33:56 From  Louis Kessler  to  Everyone:
Randy: Family Search had a GEDCOM XML 6.0 Draft in 2000/2001 so FamilySearch chose to skip 6.0 and go to 7.0
10:35:15 From  Randy Seaver  to  Everyone:
Bruce Buzbee alays said that he could implement a new GEDCOM in a month in RootsMagic.  Game on!
10:35:47 From  Betty-Lu Burton  to  Everyone:
I wonder if this was what delayed RM 8
10:36:15 From  Frank Jatzek  to  Everyone:
Betty-Lu: nope that was the update of MacOS
10:37:09 From  Randy Seaver  to  Everyone:
it's just programming - put the right info in the right box!  right?
10:37:52 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
Is the new standard backward compatible with 5.5, supposing that there’s a software package that does actually generate a clean, compliant 5.5 Gedcom file?
10:38:23 From  Debbe Hagner  to  All panelists:
Louis - what software are you using?
10:39:04 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
Yes, take the time to get it right.
10:39:21 From  Frank Jatzek  to  All panelists:
brb
10:39:49 From  Debbe Hagner  to  All panelists:
I would love to get some help with WIKItree
10:39:58 From  Louis Kessler  to  All panelists:
www.beholdgenealogy.com
10:40:09 From  Cousin Russ  to  Everyone:
www.beholdgenealogy.com
10:41:17 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
Are you proud and satisfied with the new standard, Tony? Will it ease the ambiguities from 5.5?
10:41:29 From  Randy Seaver  to  Everyone:
of course, all of the online tree folks will have to implement it too - not just desktop software.
10:42:05 From  Louis Kessler  to  Everyone:
And Canada gets the 1931 census soon.
10:43:30 From  Tony Proctor  to  All panelists:
I am happy with the new version, although I would have been more radical myself -- the committee and individual vendors decided to hold back on some aspects -- more suprisingly (for me) RUFNAME
10:44:03 From  Robbin Smith  to  Everyone:
what is rufname?
10:45:09 From  Frank Jatzek  to  All panelists:
Rufname is the favorite first Name in German. Translated it would be something like "Call Name"
10:45:42 From  Frank Jatzek  to  Everyone:
Rufname is the favorite first Name in German. Translated it would be something like "Call Name
10:46:46 From  Marcia Philbrick  to  Everyone:
according to a comment on the announcement posted in RootsMagic Users on FB Bruce Buzbee was a member of the taskforce
10:46:49 From  John Boeren  to  Everyone:
like roepnaam in Dutch
10:47:42 From  Randy Seaver  to  Everyone:
PDF is at https://gedcom.io/specifications/FamilySearchGEDCOMv7.pdf
10:48:31 From  Frank Jatzek  to  Everyone:
Bruce and Mike from Rootsmagic was there...so Maybe intregrating it in RM8 will be done quickly
10:54:30 From  Janine Edmée Hakim  to  All panelists:
This was great...wow Dear Myrtle thank you
10:55:07 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
Yes, thanks to Tony and Louis, and to the rest of the people who persisted with the new standard!
10:56:23 From  Hilary Gadsby  to  Everyone:
There was some discussion in the user group for Family Historian in February about GEDCOM 7
10:57:49 From  Monta Lee Dakin  to  All panelists:
luv this discussion. as I am a true beginner, it is interesting to see who did what and when to improve things.
10:58:16 From  Randy Seaver  to  Everyone:
page 34 has the"Source - Record" spec with code names, I can't find SOURCE - CITATION
10:58:48 From  Randy Seaver  to  Everyone:
ah page 50 has SOURCE_CITATION
11:01:12 From  Debbe Hagner  to  All panelists:
suggestion to spotlight the speaker
11:02:02 From  Robbin Smith  to  Everyone:
change your view to speaker view?
11:02:56 From  Deb Levinson  to  All panelists:
Love the research plan there!
11:06:35 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  All panelists:
Please make comments to all panelists.
11:11:01 From  Janine Edmée Hakim  to  All panelists:
Argh !!!!!
11:11:29 From  Randy Seaver  to  Everyone:
NGSQ and NYGBR and NHGR all have a citation model that they prefer.  This is one more.
11:11:45 From  Randy Seaver  to  Everyone:
NEHGR...
11:13:08 From  Tony Proctor  to  All panelists:
Unusually, I used the EE scheme in a non-genealogy book that has 7 pages of notes (including source references and discursive notes)
11:14:14 From  Debbe Hagner  to  All panelists:
https://www.historicpathways.com/download/hpprocessmap.pdf
11:14:33 From  Tony Proctor  to  All panelists:
(oops, 18 pages of...)
11:14:55 From  Louis Kessler  to  Everyone:
https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Research_Process
11:16:02 From  Lori Martin  to  Everyone:
Someone named Tony must be talking about you, Myrt!  ;-)
11:16:31 From  Cousin Russ  to  Everyone:
Randy Seaver -- Book "Call Me John" by Michael Schoenholtz - review in https://www.geneamusings.com/2021/05/genealogy-book-review-call-me-john-by.html
11:17:39 From  Linda Stufflebean  to  Everyone:
I read Call Me John yesterday, based on Randy's recommendation. Quick read and I enjoyed the story.
11:17:52 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  All panelists:
Dave's question about LEIDEN is next
11:18:27 From  Frank Jatzek  to  Everyone:
Hillary: your Researchtask reminded me to look up the GRO index to find the mother of one of my relatives that came from Lewes and went to Canada
11:18:34 From  Janine Edmée Hakim  to  All panelists:
Sorry folks...got "kicked off" temporarily
11:21:20 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  All panelists:
https://www.amazon.com/Call-Me-John-Genealogical-Mystery-ebook/dp/B09156PYYQ/
11:22:42 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  All panelists:
https://www.erfgoedleiden.nl/pilgrimdocs/persons
11:22:45 From  Karen Looney  to  Everyone:
How do you handle labeling pictures with multiple families? I realize there are probably 8 different ways with eight different people on the panel. I am looking for ideas.
11:22:56 From  Cousin Russ  to  Everyone:
special database from Leiden about Pilgrim Fathers: ttps://www.erfgoedleiden.nl/pilgrimdocs/persons
11:23:04 From  Linda Stentz  to  All panelists:
I was unable to join in the Census Genie Zoom last Wednesday and have been unable to find the YouTube.  Can someone send me the link?
11:23:36 From  Debbe Hagner  to  All panelists:
Thank you! Take care - I need to eat lunch! sending you all big genealogy hugs!
11:23:46 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  Debbe Hagner and all panelists:
hugs!
11:23:55 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
Tamura Jones seems to research the Leiden group a lot.:https://www.tamurajones.net/
11:24:43 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  Marian koalski and all panelists:
What category on his website?
11:25:20 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  Marian koalski and all panelists:
am not using his website - it has a lot of 404 errors
11:25:48 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
Genealogy, I suppose.  It includes a lot of Gedcom posts but also Mayflower posts.
11:26:13 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  Marian koalski and all panelists:
every item on his home screen regarding the Pilgrims and Leiden returns an ERROR MESSAGE.
11:26:23 From  Frank Jatzek  to  Everyone:
John: how much did your Country suffer from record losses? Seeing records from 16something is so rare for me as a german Researcher,  that these come close to mirracles.
11:26:25 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  Marian koalski and all panelists:
I know him well. don't want to embarrass him
11:26:29 From  Dave Robison  to  Everyone:
"Speeling duzn't cownt"
11:27:03 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
I don’t get errors on this, for example:
11:27:04 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
https://www.tamurajones.net/TheBiggestMayflowerMyth.xhtml
11:27:21 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  Marian koalski and all panelists:
"This page contains the following errors:
error on line 14 at column 631: StartTag: invalid element name
Below is a rendering of the page up to the first error."
11:27:38 From  DearMYRTLE .  to  Marian koalski and all panelists:
using Chrome - latest update
11:27:51 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
Using Firefox, outdated version
11:27:59 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
LOL
11:28:08 From  Louis Kessler  to  Everyone:
https://twitter.com/LeidenPilgrims is Tamura's twitter account for his Leiden research.
11:29:56 From  Marian koalski  to  Everyone:
Snipping Tool is free., meaning that library computers have it.
11:30:42 From  Louis Kessler  to  Everyone:
I also use Snagit and Paint.
11:31:42 From  Monta Lee Dakin  to  All panelists:
snagit costs.  anything you can suggest that is free?
11:32:27 From  Karen Looney  to  Everyone:
Thank you.
11:32:29 From  Randy Seaver  to  Everyone:
nobody said Photoshop, strange!
11:32:55 From  Tony Proctor  to  All panelists:
I did!
11:33:21 From  Cyndy Bray  to  Everyone:
I use Photoshop Elements. Not sure I can bring it up in that program
11:33:24 From  Randy Seaver  to  Everyone:
sorry Tony, I missed it.  I was thinking I guess...
11:33:57 From  Tony Proctor  to  All panelists:
For annotation, indexing, and searching, I write my own software
11:34:12 From  Cousin Russ  to  Everyone:
Robbin M Smith -- Million mito building a collaborative womens historical tree based on mitochondrria -- https://blog.familytreedna.com/join-the-million-mito-project/
11:34:35 From  John Boeren  to  All panelists:
Dave, please look at FB messenger... I sent you a message with two images.
11:35:03 From  Dave Robison  to  All panelists:
Thanks again, John! I'll check when we get done here.
11:35:28 From  Patricia Jackson  to  Everyone:
My mtDNA test is currently being processed. :)
11:35:50 From  Cousin Russ  to  Everyone:
Hilary Gadsby -- One of my husband's ancestors just got a mention in https://www.lostcousins.com/newsletters2/jun21news.htm?#Criack
11:36:26 From  Flo Merritt  to  Everyone:
Thank you
11:36:37 From  Janine Edmée Hakim  to  All panelists:
Ciao !!
11:36:52 From  Michael Nier  to  Everyone:
Thank you!
11:37:01 From  Laurie Desmarais  to  All panelists:
Have a wonderful day!!
11:37:12 From  Linda Freeto  to  All panelists:
Thank you for a great show.
11:37:22 From  Frank Jatzek  to  Everyone:
Get your pools ready

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BetterGEDCOM>FHISO> GEDCOM 7.0 is here!


UPDATED: 1:46pm Mountain Time.

DearREADERS,
Today within minutes of Tony Proctor's arrival to Mondays with Myrt, he received notification that GEDCOM 7.0 has been released. See: https://gedcom.io/

GEDCOM is a generic file format that can be employed to export and import genealogy data between genealogy programs and websites. Now we just need genealogy websites and software developers to adopt GEDCOM 7.0.

Louis Kessler and Tony discussed some of the welcome improvements included in this open source software designed to facilitate data communication between various genealogy software programs and websites.

A breakthrough in technology for genealogists who wish to share all data, images AND sources. Now the genealogy website and software developers must embrace the new standards. No more lost source citations! :)
Randy Seaver reported that Bruce Buzbee of RootsMagic.com plans to implement GEDCOM 7.0 within the month.

UPDATE from RootsMagic's Michael Booth who explains here is our official statement:
"Today, FamilySearch released the official specifications for GEDCOM 7.0, the standard file format for transferring and archiving genealogical data. With many others, we've played a part in guiding the development of GEDCOM 7.0.
Since it was just officially released today, it may take some time to add support for GEDCOM 7.0 to our different products. We have no official timetable for when it will be available or what specific features we plan to add.
You may learn more about GEDCOM 7.0 at https://gedcom.io"

Developers who participated in this GEDCOM version are as follows: (1)
Managing Editors 
Gordon Clarke, FamilySearch 
Luther Tychonievich, FHISO and University of Virginia Taskforce 

David Pugmire, FamilySearch 
Jimmy Zimmerman, FamilySearch 
Larry Telford, FamilySearch 
Matt Misbach, FamilySearch 
Russell Lynch, FamilySearch 
Robert Raymond, FamilySearch 
Gaylon Findlay, Ancestral Quest 
Derek Maude, Ancestry 
James Tanner, The Family History Guide 
John Cardinal, Family History Hosting 
Albert Emmerich, GEDCOM-L 
Dave Berdan, Legacy Family Tree 
Evgen Zherebniy, Software Mackiev 
Jason Fletcher, Midlera Software 
Uri Gonen, MyHeritage 
Dallan Quass, OurRoots.org 
Tony Proctor, Proctor.net 
Bill Harten, Puzzilla 
Bruce Buzbee and Mike Booth, RootsMagic 

Development Teams Tags team: Luther Tychonievich, Albert Emmerich, Russell Lynch, Tony Proctor, John Cardinal 

Extensions team: Luther Tychonievich, Tony Proctor, Jimmy Zimmerman Notes team: Dallan Quass, David Pugmire, Jason Fletcher, Russell Lynch 

External Media team: Dallan Quass, Jason Fletcher, Derek Maude


SOURCE

(1) FamilySearch. "Contributors" The FamilySearch GEDCOM Specification 7.0.0, p89 (https://gedcom.io/specifications/FamilySearchGEDCOMv7.pdf : viewed 7 June 2021.)


Thursday, June 03, 2021

CensusGenie: WHY Search By Location? 2 June 2021



DearREADERS,
WHY search by location? Curious genealogists won't want to wait until the census images are fully indexed to find info about their ancestors. It took us six months to index the 1940, and the census bureau explains the 1950 has about 20 million additional names. YIKES!

At this meeting, we learned more about peculiarities of the 1950 census and how the Steve Morse One-Step website can assist us with our locality search.

My notes include:
  • "Page 71" is reserved for those missed during the first round of enumerations. Even if an ED (enumeration district) has only 5 pages, "Page 71" follows. There are no pages 6-70 in that case.
  • "Map legends" appear on the first page of say a 4-part enumeration district map.

Watch the following to find out about the importance of adding an "A" or looking at "Other" when working through the Steve Morse One-Step

CensusGenie's 2 June 2021 Recording



Our NEXT MEETING will be 21 July 2021.

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